Monday, 12 March 2012

15 Questions for Catholics with Dr Paul Allen (Part II)

Fifteen questions for Catholics, Part II. In a continuing series begun on January 14, The Believer’s Dilemma is examining the problematic theologies of Augustine, Luther and Calvin, which were based on original sin.  What do modern Christians believe?   This is the conclusion of last week’s interview with Dr Paul Allen, Associate Professor, Department of Theological Studies, Concordia University, Montreal.

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Note: Italicised texts taken from the current Catechism. http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM


11) Divine Love and Justice for All   
634 "The gospel was preached even to the dead." The descent into hell brings the Gospel message of salvation to complete fulfilment. This is the last phase of Jesus' messianic mission, a phase which is condensed in time but vast in its real significance: the spread of Christ's redemptive work to all men of all times and all places, for all who are saved have been made sharers in the redemption.
635 Christ went down into the depths of death so that "the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live." Jesus, "the Author of life", by dying destroyed "him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and [delivered] all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage." Henceforth the risen Christ holds "the keys of Death and Hades", so that "at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth."
Believer’s Dilemma:  The catechism suggests that God’s love and justice will be extended to ‘all men of all times and all places’.  It also seems to be speaking about Old Testament saints who remained in the Patriarchs’ Limbo until the resurrected Jesus went down into Hades to preach the gospel to them.  Is this how people from the pre-Christian world were given an opportunity to be saved?
Paul Allen:  That is not an important part of Catholic tradition, but it is there as a logical consequence of what two the dispensations mean. Judaism embodies a living relationship of the people of Israel with God.  The important question is, ‘What difference does Christ make?’.  
839 "Those who have not yet received the Gospel are related to the People of God in various ways."  When she delves into her own mystery, the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the Jewish People, "the first to hear the Word of God." The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to God's revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews "belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ", "for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable.
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
843 The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as "a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life."
Believer’s Dilemma: The question of inclusive justice was extremely important to people in the Early Church who had to ask themselves, ‘What about my parents and grandparents who never knew Christ?  How could they be saved?’  We face similar questions in the 21st century in a multicultural world.  We no longer all attend the same church and share the same beliefs. Our friends, neighbours and relatives may hold completely religious beliefs or none. The catechism says the Jewish people and Muslims who have ‘not yet received the Gospel’ have been ‘prepared’ for the ‘plan of salvation.’ It does not say they are saved.  
Paul Allen: Ultimately any Christian church, the Catholic Church included, affirms that non-Christians may or may not be saved. We’re obliged to say that about ourselves. We may or may not be saved. We simply do not know.  The life of the Church is meant to be an orientation of ‘how do we need to live?’ and ‘what kind of disciples of Christ do we have to be in order to gain our salvation?’ There’s no final knowledge of anyone’s salvation, including our own.
Believer’s Dilemma: That sounds more Biblical than ‘once saved, always saved.’ But how would all these non-Christian people know what was required for salvation if they had no scriptural revelation? 
Paul Allen:  The necessity for salvation is faith in Christ. The hope is that everyone will be saved. 
Believer’s Dilemma: That is a perfectly Christian response. But if I am a devout Jew or Muslim, I will reply that I believe in God and have a revealed scripture. Without faith in Christ am I doomed?  
Paul Allen:  No, you’re not doomed.  Are you part of God’s plan? Yes. Are you ‘lost’?  To the extent that you have not understood the salvation that Christ offers, yes. So both are true. We know that the condition for salvation is faith in Christ. Nonetheless we don’t know who is going to be saved. Knowing the condition for something and knowing its actual reality in the end are two different things.
Believer’s Dilemma:  Can you explain what you mean by that?
Paul Allen:  We know that the condition for salvation is faith in Christ.  We don’t know to what extent the individual faith of Johnny or Sarah is going to lead to their salvation, or not.
Believer’s Dilemma:  If I am a devout Muslim who thinks that Jesus was a good man and a prophet but not the Son of God and the Saviour, do I have any chance of being saved?
Paul Allen: All I am prepared to say is that you, as a devout Muslim, have not fully understood the reality of Christ. I’m not prepared to say that you can’t be saved.  I don’t know that so I can’t say it. That would be arrogant.
Believer’s Dilemma: But if you’re prepared to say that salvation is dependent upon faith in Christ, and if I don’t have faith in Christ, it would seem to follow that salvation would not be possible.
Paul Allen:  It would seem to, but I’m not prepared ultimately to say that is the case because God’s revelation is ultimately beyond my grasp.  
Believer’s Dilemma: That is what most Christians will answer, but it seems to evade the obvious conclusion.
Paul Allen: We do not have a God’s-eye-view and so it is impossible to rationalize what is beyond death.
Believer’s Dilemma:  I can’t resist suggesting that you wouldn’t be in this dilemma if you had not inherited Augustine’s doctrine of original sin. There is a direct connection between the problem of universal condemnation and limited salvation during this lifetime. These ideas are all linked together. 
Paul Allen:  The Bible is perfectly clear that some people will be saved and others will be unsaved.
Believer’s Dilemma:  The Bible distinguishes between people who are good and bad, righteous and unrighteous.  When Augustine established original sin he was quite prepared to condemn babies who were unbaptised.  That was not what the Bible meant by unsaved.  You and I have no difference of opinion that Augustine was wrong about that. 
Paul Allen: Augustine was unfortunately extreme in his interpretation of original sin.  He was quite correct in recognizing it as the universal human condition.
846 "Outside the Church there is no salvation" How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
Believer’s Dilemma:  The catechism states the traditional Catholic belief that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church, but it makes allowances for people in remote times and places who could not have known Jesus. It seems to offer little hope for non-Christians in modern times.
Paul Allen:  For many centuries almost everyone in European society was a member of the Church. It was impossible to imagine a sincere believer who was outside the Church.
Believer’s Dilemma: After the Council of Carthage in 418 it was compulsory throughout the Roman Empire to be baptised into the Christian faith.
Paul Allen: Not compulsory in the sense of needing a driver’s licence in order to drive a car.  Compulsory is the sense of an ingrained habit of families bringing their babies to be baptized.
Believer’s Dilemma: It was more than that. Following Constantine, Christianity was made legal and the persecutions ended.  Then Constantine nephew Julian tried to eradicate Christianity and restore Paganism.  Then Theodosius made it his mission to eradicate Paganism.  From the first Imperial decrees against Paganism in 391 to the Council of Carthage in 418, Augustine lead the Christian forces in a monumental clash of civilizations. After 418, the severe civil penalties for practicing Paganism were supported by the doctrine of original sin which promised eternal damnation for unbaptized Pagans.  Original sin was a powerful weapon of mass conversion to compel every citizen of the Roman Empire to get ‘inside the Church.’
Paul Allen:  I’m not disputing that. But I would draw a distinction between that kind of social and legal infrastructure and the kind of totalitarian framework that you would have in Soviet Russia, for example.   
12) Freewill and Salvation  
406 The Church's teaching on the transmission of original sin was articulated more precisely in the fifth century, especially under the impulse of St. Augustine's reflections against Pelagianism, and in the sixteenth century, in opposition to the Protestant Reformation. Pelagius held that man could, by the natural power of free will and without the necessary help of God's grace, lead a morally good life; he thus reduced the influence of Adam's fault to bad example. The first Protestant reformers, on the contrary, taught that original sin has radically perverted man and destroyed his freedom; they identified the sin inherited by each man with the tendency to evil (concupiscentia), which would be insurmountable. The Church pronounced on the meaning of the data of Revelation on original sin especially at the second Council of Orange (529) and at the Council of Trent (1546).
Believer’s Dilemma:  The role of freewill in salvation is more of a question for Protestants from a Lutheran or Calvinist tradition.  Luther in ‘Bondage of the Will’ claimed it was impossible to reconcile God’s predestination of the universe with human freewill. 
Paul Allen: I’m not going to go to the wall to defend Luther and Calvin but we need to put their writings into context.  They were not philosophers.
Believer’s Dilemma:  Calvin’s Institutes of the Christian Religion was the major theological book of the Reformation.  He was a profound and systematic thinker.
Paul Allen: This is a better question for John Vissers, the Reformation theologian at McGill’s Presbyterian College. It is my understanding that Calvin’s idea of predestination has been greatly exaggerated.  While it is there in the Institutes, and has been affirmed as a central pillar of Calvinism for centuries, in the Institutes it is not all that central.
Believer’s Dilemma:  I hope to speak to Dr. Vissers in a few weeks. Let’s continue with the Catholic perspective.  Augustine’s views on freewill and predestination were less categorical than those of Luther and Calvin, although at times the Catholic catechism sounds positively Lutheran.  
1739 Freedom and sin. Man's freedom is limited and fallible. In fact, man failed. He freely sinned. By refusing God's plan of love, he deceived himself and became a slave to sin. This first alienation engendered a multitude of others. From its outset, human history attests the wretchedness and oppression born of the human heart in consequence of the abuse of freedom.
Paul Allen: The affirmation of freewill is central to Catholicism.
13) The End to Sin, Suffering and Death.  
2014 Spiritual progress tends toward ever more intimate union with Christ. This union is called "mystical" because it participates in the mystery of Christ through the sacraments - "the holy mysteries" - and, in him, in the mystery of the Holy Trinity. God calls us all to this intimate union with him, even if the special graces or extraordinary signs of this mystical life are granted only to some for the sake of manifesting the gratuitous gift given to all.
2015 The way of perfection passes by way of the Cross. There is no holiness without renunciation and spiritual battle. Spiritual progress entails the ascesis and mortification that gradually lead to living in the peace and joy of the Beatitudes:
He who climbs never stops going from beginning to beginning, through beginnings that have no end. He never stops desiring what he already knows.

Believer’s Dilemma: The Catholic catechism talks about gradual ‘spiritual progress’ and ‘the way of perfection’ whereas Protestants would be more inclined to speak of sanctification.  Redemption from original sin is passive and invisible.  A far more important aspect of the faith experience has been to seek liberation from the problem of real sin.  How do believers move from the imperfection of this physical, mortal state to the perfection of an eternal state?
Paul Allen:  This involves the Catholic affirmation of Purgatory, the state of being after death where one’s imperfections are rooted out. Purgatory is basically a way to explain how it is possible for God to offer salvation to those for whom it is absolutely self evident that they have lived miserable, failure-filled lives.
Believer’s Dilemma:  We’ll speak more about what happens after death in the final question.  
14) Prayer
2629 The vocabulary of supplication in the New Testament is rich in shades of meaning: ask, beseech, plead, invoke, entreat, cry out, even "struggle in prayer."  Its most usual form, because the most spontaneous, is petition: by prayer of petition we express awareness of our relationship with God. We are creatures who are not our own beginning, not the masters of adversity, not our own last end. We are sinners who as Christians know that we have turned away from our Father. Our petition is already a turning back to him.
2634 Intercession is a prayer of petition which leads us to pray as Jesus did. He is the one intercessor with the Father on behalf of all men, especially sinners. He is "able for all time to save those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them." The Holy Spirit "himself intercedes for us . . . and intercedes for the saints according to the will of God."
2637 Thanksgiving characterizes the prayer of the Church which, in celebrating the Eucharist, reveals and becomes more fully what she is. Indeed, in the work of salvation, Christ sets creation free from sin and death to consecrate it anew and make it return to the Father, for his glory. The thanksgiving of the members of the Body participates in that of their Head.
2639 Praise is the form of prayer which recognizes most immediately that God is God. It lauds God for his own sake and gives him glory, quite beyond what he does, but simply because HE IS. It shares in the blessed happiness of the pure of heart who love God in faith before seeing him in glory. By praise, the Spirit is joined to our spirits to bear witness that we are children of God, testifying to the only Son in whom we are adopted and by whom we glorify the Father. Praise embraces the other forms of prayer and carries them toward him who is its source and goal: the "one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist
Believer’s Dilemma: Prayer is an important part of Christian tradition.  What is your experience with prayers being offered and answered?
Paul Allen:  Prayer is about making yourself laid bare in front of your maker. It is not about seeking a remedy or a healing medicine that you would expect from a hospital. That’s not the way that God answers prayer.
Believer’s Dilemma: The catechism identifies different types of prayer: petition, intercession, thanksgiving and praise.  Prayers of petition fall more into the category of ‘seeking a remedy.’  What is the expectation for prayers of petition?
Paul Allen:  In every mass there are prayers of petition prior to the celebration of the Eucharist. All the wants and needs of the congregation are laid out on the altar. This is part of the suffering of the world that we are asking God to take up into heaven. It is part of the Eucharistic theology that God came into the world as a human being who suffered, died and was buried so that all our little sufferings are encompassed in that and taken up to heaven.
Believer’s Dilemma: There are surely people in every congregation who expect their prayers of petition to be answered?
Paul Allen:  You mean in a simplistic and childish way?
Believer’s Dilemma:  In a literal and tangible way. There are Catholics who print personal ads every day in newspapers to give public thanks for answered prayers.   
Paul Allen: If someone has prayed for something and it has been answered, they should give thanks because everything that is good comes from God.  But to set about expecting or demanding God to deliver things ‘because I am a good person’ is a problem attitude, which may or may not lurk in these petitions.  
Believer’s Dilemma: When believers conceive of a micromanaging God who directly orchestrates all the good things in their lives, they are also faced with a God who is the direct cause of the bad things in their lives or deliberately permits bad things to happen. The expectation of an all-powerful God who provides the faithful with health, wealth and blessings is not unusual among Evangelicals. 
Paul Allen:  I don’t personally know anyone who would pray in that way.
15) The Eternal State
1026 By his death and Resurrection, Jesus Christ has "opened" heaven to us. The life of the blessed consists in the full and perfect possession of the fruits of the redemption accomplished by Christ. He makes partners in his heavenly glorification those who have believed in him and remained faithful to his will. Heaven is the blessed community of all who are perfectly incorporated into Christ.
Believer’s Dilemma: The Catechism lays out in considerable detail the events anticipated between death and eternity. What is your understanding of what happens in the interim period between the time we die and the Second Coming that establishes the New Jerusalem in final two chapters of the Book of Revelation?   
Paul Allen: I don’t think about these things all that often.  It’s a part and parcel of Christian eschatology that draws on clues and hints.
Believer’s Dilemma: Those ‘clues and hints’ have been used to create some remarkably complicated eschatologies. 
Paul Allen:  Yes. The Kingdom of God is something we understand metaphorically from Jesus in his sayings and parables. The Kingdom of God – eternity – is a state of bliss-like harmony.
Believer’s Dilemma: That is the traditional description.  ‘Heaven is a state of eternal bliss.’ The emphasis is on enjoyment of the presence of God rather than the company of friends and personal pleasure?
Paul Allen: I don’t really have a stake in either elaborating on that or countering it.  If you go on YouTube, Tom Wright has a nice take on a popular Christian view of heaven. Wright makes it clear that a lot of Christians have the idea that you go to heaven as soon as you die. But that is not what the New Testament is talking about.  It actually describes an interregnum period between our individual death and the return of Christ which establishes the Kingdom of Heaven on earth. There is some work that needs to be done on correcting the expectation of when eternity comes about. There is a lot of agreement about what the Kingdom of God ultimately looks like.  N.T. Wright’s YouTube interview video is a précis of a book he has written called Surprised by Hope: Rethinking Heaven, the Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church.
(Note, N.T. Wright was the Bishop of Durham and the fourth most senior cleric in the Church of England until his retirement in 2010. He is a leading New Testament scholar who has written extensively about misconceptions concerning life after death.  He does not situate eternity in an ethereal heaven, but in a restored, very physical planet earth.)  
The following ABC interview with N.T. Wright encapsulates his ideas more graphically.  Wright’s interpretation of the New Testament is diametrically opposed to the premillennial vision of an imminent Rapture as portrayed in the ‘Left Behind’ books and movies.
  
Believer’s Dilemma: One of the unique features of Catholicism is purgatory. How much of a reality is that for most modern Catholics?
Paul Allen:  It is not as prominent as it was 50 years ago.
Believer’s Dilemma: In the grand sweep of Christian history this is a recent change.
Paul Allen:  We need to remember that Purgatory was only doctrinally affirmed in the medieval period. For the past 900 years it was a stable part of the catechism and Catholic devotion. It remains true doctrinally but has declined in importance in the popular imagination.  Theology teaches that Saints go directly to heaven to share in the glory of God, whereas everyone else, to a greater or lesser extent, goes through a period of purification known as Purgatory. The problem with the word Purgatory is that it conjures up images of place rather than a state of being.  The catechism presents Purgatory as more metaphysical than physical.  
Believer’s Dilemma:  Purgatory may not have been formalized until the medieval period, but the idea was introduced by Augustine to solve a theological problem created by original sin. The Early Church seems to have had a fairly literal take on the idea of a physical resurrection much as Tom Wright is trying to reintroduce.  Justin Martyr and others were quite categorical about it.  They had the notion that the unfinished business of this life – purification, sanctification  – would be completed there. All those who never knew Jesus would have a chance to fully understand what salvation actually means and entails.  They would have 1,000 years to complete their spiritual progress.  Augustine, for reasons related to original sin, had to eliminate that transitional period between this world and eternity in order to force people to be baptized here and now.  But it left a huge problem of justice.  Some people devoted their entire lives to following Jesus to the best of their ability while others lived selfish lives of self-gratification. How could they all go directly to heaven? And so Purgatory was born.  The catechism still states that we must accept or reject Christ here and now, although many people will never have that opportunity. 
1021 Death puts an end to human life as the time open to either accepting or rejecting the divine grace manifested in Christ. The New Testament speaks of judgment primarily in its aspect of the final encounter with Christ in his second coming, but also repeatedly affirms that each will be rewarded immediately after death in accordance with his works and faith. The parable of the poor man Lazarus and the words of Christ on the cross to the good thief, as well as other New Testament texts speak of a final destiny of the soul -a destiny which can be different for some and for others.
1022 Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven-through a purification or immediately, -or immediate and everlasting damnation.
Believer’s Dilemma: Augustine’s objective was to compel everyone within the Roman Empire to be baptized into the visible Church. This was an argument that he perfected with the Donatists.  Augustine claimed authority to use force to bring dissenters into the Church. God would subsequently identify the true believers who were part of the invisible Church.
Paul Allen: Yes. That’s another part of Augustine that is startling.  To my knowledge the distinction between visible and invisible has a very particular significance in Augustine’s argument with the Donatists. They had a very closed and narrow idea of what the visible Church was.   
Believer’s Dilemma:  To create social peace within the Roman Empire, Augustine wanted to make Christianity the largest possible tent in order to accommodate Pagans and people who had little interest in religion.   God would decide who would go to heaven. Augustine just wanted them in church. His generation was in a life and death struggle with Paganism.  The modern culture war between liberals and conservatives is a picnic in compassion.  The only way to prevent the Empire from tearing itself apart was to force everyone to follow the same religion.
Paul Allen: Peter Leithart has written a new book called Defending Constantine.  Historically, Constantine comes under a lot of attack for making Christianity into Christendom.  That is where a lot of these conflicts began.
Believer’s Dilemma: Leithart argues that the violence and compromise which damaged Christianity so badly has been incorrectly attributed to Constantine.  What he doesn’t say, but implies, is that the true culprit is Augustine. The modern world has rejected the most damaging aspects of original sin.  At some point, we may be ready to reject original sin entirely.   
Paul Allen: We need to make a distinction between the core conviction of the doctrine and its expression.  We have to be careful not to throw out the entire tradition or blindly retain it in all its ugliness. That’s why the Catechism is constantly being revised.  The theologian Bernard Lonergan makes this distinction as part of a theological method.  It’s important because what often happens, in some churches more than in others, is that you have a certain understanding of what scripture means and you have a historical collection of interpretations of scripture. Then you have a selection of a category or a word and the doctrines that follow on from those. Lonergan’s point is that when theology is constructed, these are all discreet steps along the way. We should never confuse doctrinal formulation   with a particular scriptural passage. And systematic theology is another different enterprise altogether. Dogma was a particular articulation of a doctrine made at a particular time for a particular reason. Dogmas are of a time and place whereas there are things underlying the dogma that continue.  The task of theology is to distinguish and decipher the underlying core from its time-bound or culture-bound expressions.  
Believer’s Dilemma: Thank you. This has been helpful and enlightening.
Paul Allen: Are you going to ask these questions to non-Christians?
Believer’s Dilemma:  Eventually. First I want to a fairly clear understanding of what contemporary Christians think about sin and salvation.
Paul Allen: Good luck with your project.
Tags: Emperor Constantine, Emperor Julian, Emperor Theodosius I,  Council of Carthage, Pelagius, Justin Martyr,  Calvin,  Institutes of the Christian Religion, Dr. John Vissers, McGill’s Presbyterian College, N.T. Wright, Bishop of Durham, Surprised by Hope: Rethinking Heaven, the Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church, Left Behind, Peter Leithart, Defending Constantine, Bernard Lonergan.

15 Questions for Catholics with Dr Paul Allen (Part I)

Fifteen questions for Catholics. In a continuing series begun on January 14, The Believer’s Dilemma is examining the problematic theologies of Augustine, Luther and Calvin, which were based on original sin.  What do modern Christians believe?  This week we have an interview with Dr Paul Allen, Associate Professor, Department of Theological Studies, Concordia University, Montreal.


Officially, all Christian theologies make some reference to the Fall of mankind in Eden as the origin of evil, sin and death. In practice, believers hold a wide variety of views about whether Eden is a literal event that occurred circa 4,000 BC or is an allegory for the human experience. This series of interviews represents denominational beliefs as understood by a single knowledgeable individual.  

History:  The Roman Catholic Church, with over a billion members, is the largest Christian denomination and the most influential. The authority of the Pope is traced back to the apostle Peter, who is believed to have died in Rome. Peter was the first apostle to recognize Jesus as ‘the Messiah, the son of the Living God’ and in return was chosen as ‘the rock’ upon which Jesus would build his Church and the apostle to whom Jesus would entrust the keys to heaven and hell. (Matthew 16:13-20)  Rome was a predominantly pagan city until the 4th century when Emperors Constantine and Theodosius adopted Christianity as their personal faith.  The earliest churches were established in modern day Israel, spreading north through Lebanon, Syria, Armenia, Turkey and across to Greece, and south through Egypt, Ethiopia and North Africa.  All ecumenical councils for the first thousands years of Christianity were held in modern day Turkey.  The New Testament and all commentary of the first centuries of Christianity were written in Greek in Eastern regions of the Roman Empire. 

After embracing Christianity in the 4th century, Constantine built an Eastern capital at Constantinople (modern day Istanbul).  The ‘New Rome’ was a purely Christian city from its foundation and was located in the heart of the ancient ‘Bible Belt.’ There was always tension between the older Greek churches and the newer Latin churches which led to a complete rupture in 1054 when the Eastern Orthodox Church separated from the Roman Catholic Church.  Rome became the uncontested centre of Christian authority until the 16th century, when the Protestant Reformation sparked centuries of violence between Christians.  Protestant churches fragmented into a myriad of denominations, divisions, independent churches and free churches which hold different beliefs. Roman Catholicism is governed by carefully documented tradition and final authority which resides in the Pope.  The clearest statement of Roman Catholic beliefs is found in the Catechism.       

Position:  The official positions of the Catholic Church are quite conservative although many Catholics hold more liberal views. The Second Vatican Council (1962-65) addressed relations between the Roman Catholic Church and the modern world which produced many changes such as translating the liturgy from Latin into vernacular languages and encouraging an open dialogue within the Church.

Current situation:  In recent years, the Roman Catholic Church has struggled with scandals, declining attendance and closing churches.

Note: Italicised texts are taken from the 1997 Catechism. http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM
1)  The Universe
(Catechism) 283 The question about the origins of the world and of man has been the object of many scientific studies which have splendidly enriched our knowledge of the age and dimensions of the cosmos, the development of life-forms and the appearance of man. These discoveries invite us to even greater admiration for the greatness of the Creator, prompting us to give him thanks for all his works and for the understanding and wisdom he gives to scholars and researchers.  
293 Scripture and Tradition never cease to teach and celebrate this fundamental truth: "The world was made for the glory of God."  
337 God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day. On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation, permitting us to "recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God."
Believer’s Dilemma: Does the universe exist for a purpose?  If so, what is it?
Paul Allen: There is a lot of truth and a very good poem in the Genesis creation story. But a poem, by its very nature, is not giving a historical or literal account.  Yet it can be ‘true’.  For example, Augustine is willing to concede that the seven days of creation are not seven literal 24-hour days.
2) Natural Evil
(Catechism) 310   But why did God not create a world so perfect that no evil could exist in it? With infinite power God could always create something better. But with infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. In God's plan this process of becoming involves the appearance of certain beings and the disappearance of others, the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature. With physical good there exists also physical evil as long as creation has not reached perfection
Believer’s Dilemma: Why is the natural world plagued with catastrophic events? 
Paul Allen: The modern Catechism’s way of talking about Creation and physical evil is different than a Calvinist view. Catholic thought on this question has upheld the goodness of creation. Physical evil, to go back to Augustine, is a privation of nature rather than something than marks it utterly. The truthful Christian answer to the question of natural evil is simply that we don’t know why it exists. This is not fully a satisfying answer, but it would be horrifying if the direct cause of tsunamis or earthquakes rested with God. The Eastern Orthodox theologian David Bentley Hart has written about tsunamis and theodicy on First Things website.
3)  Human Beings
(Catechism) 1 God, infinitely perfect and blessed in himself, in a plan of sheer goodness freely created man to make him share in his own blessed life. For this reason, at every time and in every place, God draws close to man.
45 Man is made to live in communion with God in whom he finds happiness.  
Believer’s Dilemma: Do human beings exist for a purpose? If so, what is it?
Paul Allen: ‘The best answer is found in the Baltimore Catechism (1885, revised 1941) Question 6 ‘God made me to know Him, to love Him, and to serve Him in this world, and to be happy with Him forever in the next.’
4)  The Existence of Evil
(Catechism) 324 The fact that God permits physical and even moral evil is a mystery that God illuminates by his Son Jesus Christ who died and rose to vanquish evil. Faith gives us the certainty that God would not permit an evil if he did not cause a good to come from that very evil, by ways that we shall fully know only in eternal life.
374 The first man was not only created good, but was also established in friendship with his Creator and in harmony with himself and with the creation around him, in a state that would be surpassed only by the glory of the new creation in Christ.
376 As long as he remained in the divine intimacy, man would not have to suffer or die. The inner harmony of the human person, the harmony between man and woman, and finally the harmony between the first couple and all creation, comprised the state called "original justice".
Believer’s Dilemma: Why did a God of perfect goodness create - or permit - evil?   
Paul Allen: Humans were created, as the Psalm says, a little lower than angels and that it why we suffer and die. If human beings had not chosen freely to sin, then we can speculate that in some way, we would have been more angelic. We cannot know how things might have turned out differently, so there is not much more to say about this other than that the failure to choose good - the failure to pursue truth, goodness and beauty - is what marks human existence.
(Catechism) 388 With the progress of Revelation, the reality of sin is also illuminated. Although to some extent the People of God in the Old Testament had tried to understand the pathos of the human condition in the light of the history of the fall narrated in Genesis, they could not grasp this story's ultimate meaning, which is revealed only in the light of the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. We must know Christ as the source of grace in order to know Adam as the source of sin. 
389 The doctrine of original sin is, so to speak, the "reverse side" of the Good News that Jesus is the Saviour of all men, that all need salvation and that salvation is offered to all through Christ. The Church, which has the mind of Christ, knows very well that we cannot tamper with the revelation of original sin without undermining the mystery of Christ.
390 The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man. Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents.
Believer’s Dilemma:  Describing ‘the Fall’ as a primeval event that took place at the dawn of history sounds quite Augustinian.
Paul Allen: Paul, more than any other Biblical writer links failure and sin to suffering and death. Yes, this does conform to some kind of original sin narrative. But it’s ultimately Christian redemption, which is both an overcoming of our sinful nature and an overcoming of our tendency to die. We all die and we all sin, even the most upright of saints.
Believer’s Dilemma: The Augustinian interpretation of Eden makes God sound surprised that Adam and Eve exercised their freewill in rebellion, as if God created humans perfect and expected them to remain perfect. Had they done so there would have been no sin, suffering, evil or death. A modern reading of Eden would simply see intelligent creatures free to make choices and suffer the consequences. God does not have to be surprised or angry about Augustinian ‘original sin.’ Pelagius, the arch-nemesis of Augustine, argued that we are simply free in what we choose.
Paul Allen: The dispute between Augustine and Pelagius had to do with the nature of Grace. Pelagius never disputed that sin exists.
Believer’s Dilemma: Right. Pelagius never disputed the universality of sin or its seriousness. He questioned whether we inherited our fallen/depraved nature from Adam or are naturally free to choose good or evil. Focussing on a damaged will rather than the free will takes salvation in a completely different direction.  Is the problem ‘original sin’ or is the problem simply sin?
Paul Allen: The doctrine of ‘original sin’ is simply trying to explain where sin comes from. Does it do so flawlessly? No.  There are flaws in the historical aspect and the idea of direct biological transmission. Nevertheless it is essential to try to understand where sin comes from.  
Believer’s Dilemma: Isn’t the problem of personal sin sufficiently complex without linking it to a problematic historical concept of original sin?  Does Adam’s sin change my own propensity to sin? Am I spiritually crippled or morally depraved because of someone else’s actions? Is it not confusing to retain the heavily freighted term ‘original sin’ to speak about universal sin?
Paul Allen: It is true that the transmission of sin is not as important as its universality. We all share in this conundrum of being creatures who can freely choose between good and evil, and who often choose not to do good. This universality is the important part of the doctrine of original sin.   
Believer’s Dilemma: Is it important or essential for you to retain the term ‘original sin’?
Paul Allen: We have to have a way to talk about sin that is not just my sin or your sin or her sin, but the universal condition.
(Catechism) 402 All men are implicated in Adam's sin, as St. Paul affirms: "By one man's disobedience many (that is, all men) were made sinners": "sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned." The Apostle contrasts the universality of sin and death with the universality of salvation in Christ. "Then as one man's trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one man's act of righteousness leads to acquittal and life for all men."
403 Following St. Paul, the Church has always taught that the overwhelming misery which oppresses men and their inclination towards evil and death cannot be understood apart from their connection with Adam's sin and the fact that he has transmitted to us a sin with which we are all born afflicted, a sin which is the "death of the soul". Because of this certainty of faith, the Church baptizes for the remission of sins even tiny infants who have not committed personal sin.
1008 Death is a consequence of sin. The Church's Magisterium, as authentic interpreter of the affirmations of Scripture and Tradition, teaches that death entered the world on account of man's sin.  
Believer’s Dilemma: The catechism teaches that death is a consequence of sin. How do you interpret that?
Paul Allen: This affirmation is a metaphysical and existential point. It is not a straightforward empirical point.  On this question I think both Augustine and Luther took the connection between sin and death directly from Paul.
Believer’s Dilemma: Not everyone has interpreted Paul the same way. Augustine’s conception of original sin was so severe that unbaptized babies were condemned for their inherited sin alone.  Every unbaptized sinner was condemned to eternal damnation. Augustine did not get that from Paul. Luther read Paul and came up with a complete doctrine of predestination and election. These ideas are in Paul but no one else came away with the Reformation dogma that fallen humans are afflicted with Total Depravity which crippled their will, and that Jesus provided Limited Atonement for salvation.
Paul Allen: To sin and suffer death are things that Christian faith teaches us we can be redeemed from. Even Christ suffered death and was redeemed from it. This is a promise made to all Christians. We will all suffer and die but through faith we can be saved. Augustine went too far in saying that if one is not baptized you cannot be saved. That goes counter to a tradition that he was otherwise affirming – God’s ability to save.   
5) The Conflicted Human Nature
(Catechism) 407 The doctrine of original sin, closely connected with that of redemption by Christ, provides lucid discernment of man's situation and activity in the world. By our first parents' sin, the devil has acquired a certain domination over man, even though man remains free. Original sin entails "captivity under the power of him who thenceforth had the power of death, that is, the devil". Ignorance of the fact that man has a wounded nature inclined to evil gives rise to serious errors in the areas of education, politics, social action and morals.
Believer’s Dilemma: Why does human nature appear to be a mixture of good and evil?  
Paul Allen: On the question of good and evil - why did God create beings who could rebel? - the insight that we need to take away from all of this is the nature of God. God is a being who wants to relate to humans primarily through love. God didn’t create robots because they are not interesting. Elie Weisel said, ‘God made man because he loves stories.’ The tension in the human/divine relationship is caused by creatures who are free to choose to do good or evil, and God, their creator, who allows them to do good or evil.
Believer’s Dilemma:  The story of a God who made humans free to ‘make stories’ is much more engaging that the story of a God who is shocked or angered by their choices.
Paul Allen: I don’t see the idea that God is shocked. My reading of Eden is quite different. When God is asking Adam - ‘Where are you?’ - it seems clear that God already knows what has happened. He is not shocked.
Believer’s Dilemma:  In the modern world we don’t think of original sin as it was taught by Augustine in the 5th century and later revived by Luther and Calvin.  Yet the modern Catechism ‘affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man.’ This appears to make a direct link between a historical event and the cause of sin and death. This vision of Eden and the Fall is the foundation of many disturbing aspects of our theology, whether we are Catholic, Orthodox or Protestant. 
Paul Allen: I do not believe in a literal, historical Garden of Eden but I do believe in the doctrine of original sin.  I can reconcile these two ideas in the way that Reinhold Niebuhr does, namely that original sin is a concept that pertains to human existence. Human beings have natures and/or wills in which we are inclined to sin. Not all the time, but the inclination is always there.
Believer’s Dilemma:  Is that because of our ‘fallen’ nature or our ‘human’ nature?  Would our nature have been different had somebody at some point acted differently, or was the capacity to sin always part of our nature?
Paul Allen: Science has shown that human beings descended from apes. We share DNA and all kinds of genetic markers with other mammals of the animal kingdom. We have tendencies toward selfishness and all the vices, which are biologically grounded throughout the entire human species. Niebuhr himself made the claim that the doctrine of original sin is the most empirical of all Christian doctrines because there is so much evidence that argues for its universality.  Pick up any newspaper and it is full of human nature and original sin.
Believer’s Dilemma: Billy Graham spoke in the same terms during his crusades. But ‘sin nature’ and ‘original sin’ - in the sense of something historically originated and universally transmitted - are two different concepts.  The moment you speak of evolution from apes and DNA you are worlds away from depravity transmitted from two historical beings.
Paul Allen: I’m not a creationist.  I’m not going to trace sin to a historical couple. The Catholic catechism is careful on this question by not matching the doctrine of original sin with a particular historical event. 
Believer’s Dilemma: The Catechism speaks of ‘a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man.’ That sounds quite historical.  Section 402 says, ‘All men are implicated in Adam's sin...’ This sounds quite particular.  Section 403 says, ‘the Church has always taught that the overwhelming misery which oppresses men and their inclination towards evil and death cannot be understood apart from their connection with Adam's sin and the fact that he has transmitted to us a sin with which we are all born afflicted, a sin which is the "death of the soul".’ This sounds like pure Augustine.
Paul Allen: I wouldn’t say pure Augustine. The use of the word ‘transmitted’ is not helpful, particularly so near the words ‘primeval event,’ because it does bring in a particular historical inheritance which is direct cause and effect. There is a great deal of theological literature and tradition from the last two hundred years which talks about Adam and Eve as stand-ins rather than historical characters. I don’t think a reading of the Genesis text or the Catechism allows us to jettison the doctrine of original sin. Particular things can be jettisoned, such as the idea that the world is only 6,000 years old, and that there was a historical man and woman who lived in a garden between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, but the doctrine as a whole can stand.  I don’t have a problem with a ‘primeval event’ assuming – and this is a big assumption – that you can talk about human beings at a particular point, and apes at a particular point just prior. Paleo-biologists are not in agreement about when that moment occurred. We are not even capable of defining what we mean by human nature.  Is it the ability to think or make tools?  Aside from that huge debate, we can talk about a time when humans first began to grapple with the question of moral agency. Regardless of whether it was in a clan of pre-hominids struggling with rivalry or greed, which reared its head for the first time, there was a starting point, a primeval event.  That is my perhaps overly generous reading of the catechism.
6)  Primitive Peoples
(Catechism) 31 Created in God's image and called to know and love him, the person who seeks God discovers certain ways of coming to know him. These are also called proofs for the existence of God, not in the sense of proofs in the natural sciences, but rather in the sense of "converging and convincing arguments", which allow us to attain certainty about the truth. These "ways" of approaching God from creation have a twofold point of departure: the physical world, and the human person.
35 Man's faculties make him capable of coming to a knowledge of the existence of a personal God. But for man to be able to enter into real intimacy with him, God willed both to reveal himself to man, and to give him the grace of being able to welcome this revelation in faith.(so) the proofs of God's existence, however, can predispose one to faith and help one to see that faith is not opposed to reason.
37 In the historical conditions in which he finds himself, however, man experiences many difficulties in coming to know God by the light of reason alone.
Believer’s Dilemma: What form of religion was known to ancient cavemen, such as Neanderthals? How did they know it?
Paul Allen: The Christian belief in the communion of saints is not entirely divorced from ancestor worship, in a very nuanced sense.  Heaven is a place where everyone is in communion. Human spirituality from its very earliest form grasped onto the insight that after death one does not cease to exist.  It is not my specialty, but the cave paintings of Lascaux also elevate the lives of animals as well. The paintings of the deer and stags on caves walls suggest animism and ancestor worship.   
Believer’s Dilemma:  The catechism says ‘Created in God's image and called to know and love him, the person who seeks God discovers certain ways of coming to know him.’ So there were ways of coming to know God in the absence of scripture and the absence of tradition?
Paul Allen: Of course, yes. And some people have even gone so far as to say that people who respond to God’s grace who are outside the Christian tradition can be called ‘anonymous Christians.’  The phrase is problematical from at least two angles. 
7)  Laws and Commandments
Believer’s Dilemma: Prior to Jesus (0 AD) there was no New Testament and prior to Moses (1500 BC) there was no Old Testament.  Multitudes of people had access only to parts of the Bible or none of it. How did a God of perfect justice reveal Laws and Commandments to all the peoples of the earth?   What would salvation have meant to people who did not have our written revelations?
Paul Allen: The author of salvation remains God and no one knows what the result of God’s saving will mean in the end.
(Catechism) 634 "The gospel was preached even to the dead." The descent into hell brings the Gospel message of salvation to complete fulfilment. This is the last phase of Jesus' messianic mission, a phase which is condensed in time but vast in its real significance: the spread of Christ's redemptive work to all men of all times and all places, for all who are saved have been made sharers in the redemption.
635 Christ went down into the depths of death so that "the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live." Jesus, "the Author of life", by dying destroyed "him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and [delivered] all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage." Henceforth the risen Christ holds "the keys of Death and Hades", so that "at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth."
Believer’s Dilemma: The Catholic Church had a concept of a Limbo of the Patriarchs. When Christ was crucified and descended into Hell or Sheol, he preached to those who had been seeking him. That is an explanation for those who lived prior to Christ.  What about non-Christians in post-incarnation times? The catechism says that sacraments are necessary for salvation. 
(Catechism) 1129 The Church affirms that for believers the sacraments of the New Covenant are necessary for salvation. "Sacramental grace" is the grace of the Holy Spirit, given by Christ and proper to each sacrament. The Spirit heals and transforms those who receive him by conforming them to the Son of God. The fruit of the sacramental life is that the Spirit of adoption makes the faithful partakers in the divine nature by uniting them in a living union with the only Son, the Saviour.
Paul Allen: The sacraments are necessary because the church understands faith as being necessary to salvation. I think that is a more important answer. The qualifier, which the catechism eventually explains, is that faith leads to certain things. The Catholic understanding is that faith without works is dead, as it says in James. If there is no outward expression, what would faith consist of? Some kind of silent faith? Hence the catechism’s language about the necessity of sacraments.  
8)  Reconciliation via Laws and Commandments
Believer’s Dilemma: Jews and Christians had access to the Laws and Commandments but did knowledge alone reconcile believers to God and cause them to live righteously?   
Paul Allen: Gnosticism held that in various ways that knowledge was the way to salvation. The Church made a different claim that knowledge alone is not going to help. It is an attitude of faith that is determinative.
 9) Salvation
(Catechism) 1213 Holy Baptism is the basis of the whole Christian life, the gateway to life in the Spirit (vitae spiritualis ianua), and the door which gives access to the other sacraments. Through Baptism we are freed from sin and reborn as sons of God; we become members of Christ, are incorporated into the Church and made sharers in her mission: "Baptism is the sacrament of regeneration through water in the word
1250 Born with a fallen human nature and tainted by original sin, children also have need of the new birth in Baptism to be freed from the power of darkness and brought into the realm of the freedom of the children of God, to which all men are called.  The sheer gratuitousness of the grace of salvation is particularly manifest in infant Baptism. The Church and the parents would deny a child the priceless grace of becoming a child of God were they not to confer Baptism shortly after birth
Believer’s Dilemma: What is required for salvation to occur?   
Paul Allen: The short answer is faith in Christ.
(Catechism) 1259 For catechumens who die before their Baptism, their explicit desire to receive it, together with repentance for their sins, and charity, assures them the salvation that they were not able to receive through the sacrament.
Believer’s Dilemma:  That leads to the question: what happens to those who didn’t have - couldn’t have - faith in Jesus? If catechumens who die unbaptized can be extended exceptional salvation, what of people who never came close to the Christian sacrament of baptism?
Paul Allen: The concept that is important here was developed in the Middle Ages. It is called the baptism of desire, which is simply the idea that if you desired God or Christ, the desire is sufficient on its own to lead to the salvation that is offered to all of us.  
10)  Who is Saved?
(Catechism) 1260 "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery."  Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.
1261 As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let the children come to me, do not hinder them,"63 allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism.
Believer’s Dilemma: Salvation appears to be assured for those who are baptized and possible for those who merely desired to be baptized.  There is ‘hope’ for unbaptized infants.  Can we define who is saved?   
Paul Allen: The truth is that God alone knows. It is one thing to affirm we know what can bring salvation, but we don’t know which individuals have made that choice.
(Catechism) 161 Believing in Jesus Christ and in the One who sent him for our salvation is necessary for obtaining that salvation.
678 Following in the steps of the prophets and John the Baptist, Jesus announced the judgement of the Last Day in his preaching. Then will the conduct of each one and the secrets of hearts be brought to light. Then will the culpable unbelief that counted the offer of God's grace as nothing be condemned. Our attitude to our neighbour will disclose acceptance or refusal of grace and divine love. On the Last Day Jesus will say: "Truly I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me."
679 Christ is Lord of eternal life. Full right to pass definitive judgement on the works and hearts of men belongs to him as redeemer of the world. He "acquired" this right by his cross. The Father has given "all judgement to the Son". Yet the Son did not come to judge, but to save and to give the life he has in himself. By rejecting grace in this life, one already judges oneself, receives according to one's works, and can even condemn oneself for all eternity by rejecting the Spirit of love
Believer’s Dilemma:  There seems to be a breadth of grace in remote times and places based on seeking God to the best of one’s knowledge and ability. But when we get into more contemporary times, belief in Jesus is essential.  What is meant by ‘rejecting the spirit of love’ and ‘culpable unbelief’?
Paul Allen: ‘Culpable’ reminds us there is a sense of justice in God. It’s something that should be affirmed. God is just and there must be consequences for the choices and actions we make in this life. I prefer to use that kind of logic in a moral context.  Someone can make many bad choices and be a notorious sinner and criminal but they can still repent and be saved.
Believer’s Dilemma: The idea of ‘culpable unbelief’ can be used in a very narrow way to condemn multitudes of non-Christians.  
Paul Allen: And that does happen.
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15 questions for Catholics, with Dr Paul Allen, to be concluded next week:
11) Does divine love and justice ensure that salvation is available to all?  
12) What role does human freewill play in salvation?  
13) How does salvation bring an end to sin, suffering and death?          
14) Does supernatural power intervene in the natural world to answer prayer?
15) What is the eternal state?
Tags: David Bentley Hart, Augustine